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But how about fat and ugly women out there, do they still got a chance? But, if an overweight women wants to feel something that she is not dainty , then the 350 pounder is a match made in heaven! One was a Marine and you would have thought that guy was a giant from the level of confidence.

Moral of the story. He sounds like a great guy, but even if you read his profile, he has similar hang ups. He is a very hard worker, i believe his determination to prove hisself is why. I am servile your children will have great moral values. We took new professional photos. No conversations in private places. So please no one get mad. A parson dating site is required positively on its history to find you what you're looking for. He loves when I wear heels and doesn't have any el being shorter.

Evan you are doing great things here, keep up the good work. Also this is coming from a man who said women are biologically pre-programed to go for taller men. Today, I'm about to celebrate my fifth anniversary with a wonderful dude who is roughly my height, and I would like you to know that height ain't nothing but a number.

Short guys dating site - I am not whiniung I am simply trying to educate the ignorant like you and if some young man is reading this they will know how to recognize and deal with people like you, they will know you think; they will know how to recognize people like you and the best way to react. The quid and practices of inner, and the us terrible to describe it, work again from working to processed and over time.

Appearing with me was one of my all-time favorite clients, Tom Pandolfo. Charming, charismatic, successful, warm, athletic… Tom has it all. The only thing missing in his life is a woman. So, after hiring me as his dating coach, we set to work in rebranding him on Match. We took new professional photos. We had Tom fill out my and submit to an hour of questions from me on the phone. We wrote two new profile essays that were unique, funny and confident. Yet his height defines him, since it has prevented otherwise interested women from being interested in him over the course of his entire life. Height is irrelevant to anything that makes a man a good husband or father. This instantly reminded me of a story that. The women always chose the tall men. I wanted to know if height was the only difference and the constant deal breaker. So I moved my profile from Pittsburgh and posted it for 3 days in a town where nobody knew me Philadelphia. People want what they want. And no amount of complaining is going to change it. Oh, and I am one. Six replies from six emails sent? Really, it kills me. And although you can feel free to substitute , I honestly feel that nobody gets a rawer deal than short guys. Honestly, ladies…You can get your own dishes from the top shelf. So how about it, women? Is there any legitimate reason not to go out with this amazing, amazing man? I want to hear the truth. Refusing to date a guy SOLELY because he is short is shallow by definition. You women are degrading in many ways. After all that a man can do for a women, to have her consider him a lesser man do to height is very insulting. But without being tall, dispositional characters of men humorous, intelligent, creative can be a substitution for that matter — not to mention how personality takes the most part in long term relationship. Not like most men, women are not SO attracted by looks. But how about fat and ugly women out there, do they still got a chance? And looks, believe it or not, we tend to get attracted to someone who has similar face. Most women I know they want these rich, handsome, tall, intelligent, and funny, of all possible men out there. I happen to be a great all-around athlete and musician, amongst many other talents and attributes. I have been walking over taller men in numerous activities and engagements all my life, constantly being underestimated including sports, schooling, manners, achievements, social life, etc. So women, you are honestly full of it. Sorry, but that is NOT how it is for guys. No girl wants to be taller than her guy, but no self respecting guy wants to have to look up when he talks to his girl! I promise you, Short Girl Nation is not as small as you would think. I am sure if you look hard enough you can find the girl that will complement your height perfectly! I have only met a handful of short men who are secure in themselves, are incredible charming and intelligent and THAT is what makes them attractive! However, many short men have internalized a negative self-image which has made them impossible to even speak to because they are so blantantly insecure. Online dating is tough when it comes to any physical drawback for any person because that is the only basis on which people are being judged. Anyway, how about let us women choose whoever the fuck we are attracted to instead of blaming them for being superficial shallow bitches? Poster above is right something just feel off with shorter men. Like they never really reach adulthood. But as you said, women like to feel dainty. I think that has to do with their self-esteem and self-image. She has no problems with the height. I can cuddle her and make her feel small. I can pick her up and toss her over my shoulder. She is not a petite woman either. In fact I am 150 lbs and she is 165lbs. Shes a beautiful woman, so I do not care what her weight number is. Or what others think of me saying that. Short men can still make a woman feel nice and petite as well. Really, if your height is not there, build strength and muscle. Wear straight legged pants to make your legs seem longer and boots so the ankle rests around the heel and not the bottom of the foot. Women wear make up to look unblemished, I wear the right clothes to look taller. One was a Marine and you would have thought that guy was a giant from the level of confidence. Way sexier than many very tall men. Along with not wanting to feel like a land whale next to your date, you also have to field stupid comments from everyone around you. If your guy is confident, you can get through it. Can you all imagine if the societal taboo and prejudice were absent? Most people cannot fathom this. Just as some women will make exceptions for the short guy who is confident and has a healthy outlook on dating and women. Men are simply more flexible. And society routinely shames men who avoid fat women. As for comparing to fat women, ugly women, etc… Are you saying that women are ok with fat men, ugly men, etc? You made a statement reflecting an attitude about woman that is similar to what I am used to hearing. Not many secure females want to work extra hard to make a man feel more secure, or better, or confident…. But in all reality, at first it was just about getting to know each other because I am not that shallow. We found a connection, joy in having each other around. We are married and now I see him as this : Summing it up here is what has come about… he boasts confidence to hide lack of confidence. He wants extra praise for everyday things because he needs MORE to feel sufficient, he makes fun of other people of all ages shapes genders. I guess to feel superior. I hit menopause and lack of sex was very quickly a problem because that, to him, is how he knows I love and want him. So, what I did was go against anything I would have done in my younger years 38 now and reminded myself not to be stupid and let something like his height be a reason to blow him off. I shut that voice up that says I like taller men. What I ended up learning was why…taller men, typically have enough confidence to let the female fall into the roll of less equal, the protected, that many of us like. My husband has forced me to be an equal, and showed me what being shorter has made him…an ass. Seriously, I cannot soothe what it has done to him in life. He is a very hard worker, i believe his determination to prove hisself is why. Not all shorter men are affected like this I hope. I guess to ease their insecurity. I stand by my earlier in life determination that taller-than-me guys are more attractive. Divorce may be in our future due to our inability to see eye to eye on so many things of importance…. I never had this experience with the taller guys I have been with, and will look towards looking up to, and respecting a man once again. I say if my husband would man up and be sincere, comforting and allow me to be a bit inferior, I would not have decided he is unattractive after all. Indeed, your husband may have issues that prevent him from developing a deeper intimacy. But what you fail to see is your own problems. You, however, seemingly want your husband to be as codependent as you are. Would that really work for you? Sincerely, you probably know your husband better than he does. But you may not know yourself at all. A divorce may be in your future, but I promise that until you deal with yourself that it is going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I am not unaffected by my height, but also am not dramatically affected by it. Vertically challenged males, if you are sitting there self loathing, just remember there is a cute girl out there who could be loving and fucking you off right now if you had just spent the last year working on all the other aspects of your self you have been neglecting. Mind, body, finances etc. Life is merely a realistic game with rules and relationships that have patterns and methods you can use to make you the best you, that you can be. Here is a helpful link to watch, dont let it hurt your feelings, let it explain a reality, the reality that you decide to do something or you decide to not do something. We want to feel feminine.. But … we were brought up to want to be gentle and kind and light on our feet. Some of us are athletic or curvy and have been criticized for years for our bodies. It does not diminsh your manhood to recognize that she wants to feel feminine. Maybe try to find ways to make your female friends and relatives feel appreciated and feminine and accepted and that accepting nature will attract a woman whatever your size relative to hers. You are entitled to your physical preferences just the same as I am. On online dating I would readily send you a full length picture tell you my weight and height and be totally honest. I am skinny and in decent shape. We are all entitled to what we prefer. You can advise us to rethink our preferences sure but will you? A woman in the upper echelon of dating is going to have her pick of men to date so she is going to date along with her preferences can you blame her? She has her pick of men why should she change her preferences? She is not having a hard time getting dates she is meeting nice attractive men and she likes them tall so why should she? If you were her and could date any women you wanted would you change your preference or would you date with your preference? And you are the ones complaining about not getting dates not the women so who is it that needs to adjust? Badgering complaining getting mad is not changing that. Focus on the women that are interested in you and not being angry at the ones that are not. But thank you for being polite while stating your opinion, that was kind of you. The women who read this website seem to be highly intelligent and well adjusted and good-hearted. Big hugs to you all. I was married for 19 years to a very sweet, very short woman, so life worked out okay for the two of us shorties. Not all short men are so lucky as me though. And you know what? And women are chided for rejecting men with physical attributes they CAN control. I have caught flak on this board because I am turned off by men with Duck Dynasty style gray beards. I also caught flak for rejecting men who smoke, something that while difficult habit to quit, is not impossible either. Let him find a woman who finds him attractive just as he is. BTW, I have no issue with men under 6 feet tall. That really makes a guy feel special. I am marrying a man well under 6 feet tall and he is not rich either. ALL of my serious relationships have been with men well under 6 feet tall. EMK ran an article that said short men get laid as often as tall men. And short men who claim that ALL women want men who are 6 feet tall are liars as well, which is demonstrably true. Just take a look in the world, there are plenty of men under 6 feet tall who are happily coupled. I am engaged to an average income, well under 6 foot tall man, because he is handsome, kind, funny, smart, treats me like a queen. Me, I am an averagely cute older woman with average income and an OK job. I chose the latter. Unfortunately divorced, and have most custody of my child. I realize you maybe want to feel dainty around him. However I use to be a very successful MMA fighter, until I had to have a hip replacement, around 29. In which ended my career. I have absolutely no problem with larger women! No matter what size! This is going to be a horrible comparison!!!!!! So please no one get mad. I love animals period!!!! I have 2 awesome dogs. I just want you to know I am not comparing you to one!!! They had been beat by there previous owners and have some disfigurements. Apprehensive at first, and after time it all came down to, that they just wanted to be loved. They are the sweetest dogs in the world. They love me daughter, she loves them. And I am happy. At this point I want the same thing I just want to be loved. One question I have is why women find it so easy to make a guy feel self-conscious about his height. But the guy I was the most in love with was a childhood friend about my height or a teeny bit taller the moment I wore heels I was way taller. There was noone more attractive in the world to me, esp because he had such an amazingly good heart…You sound like a sensitive and nice person, and so you deserve much better than those unkind women anyway. Conversely, when a man is short enough to nestle into my chest, it feels oddly like having a child in my arms. Jeez ladies— Leave some of the really tall guys for us taller women. They want their children to be taller. Or when on Spring Break just for fun! Not all short women are that way so much. But still, they want a guy notably taller than they. Taller people are perceived more as leaders and have higher status. Silly, but until women become more confident in their own values and self assessments, they find comfort in playing the games where society tells them what to avoid. BTW, I am 5 foot 8, which is not tall, but does not seem like an issue with my attractiveness—maybe they just want me for sex? It is biological programming. Just because she has mentally decided that she has had enough kids does not mean the biological programming stops working. I have my preferences also, as do many men. I definitely prefer women who are above average in looks. The thing is, we all do that. They did research in a university and found that people will set their sites high when they are very young and first start noticing the opposite sex. Read that as all the guys want the head cheerleader, and all the girls want the star quarterback. At the same time this process can be sped up if we are being approached by the opposite sex in enough numbers, and we begin too notice the prettiest girls or handsomest guys that approach us. At some point we learn where we fit in. After long relationships that end, we often have to go through this process again. What it really comes down to is a sort of economics. There is a very real economy there. While I was in the Navy, I saw several couples break up for this reason. In every case, the man had married a girl that was quite pretty. They were from fairly isolated areas like very small towns in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, etc… They joined the Navy, and after a short period, brought their wife to live with them in San Diego. Well…welcome to the big city where beautiful people are everywhere. Suddenly these girls see guys that are very good looking, also noticing them. Never failed…these women would start to date some hunky guy while we were at sea for 6 months. And the Dear John letter followed. Note that I am not saying this is right, or OK…just that it is what it is. Two short people can have tall kids, and vice versa. Height is controlled by a number of factors, and is not easily predictable. And yes, they are all their natural children. A lot of men find petite women very attractive. I find the comments about shorter men not maturing pretty ridiculous and borderline offensive. The not liking shorter guys thing is just base biology and gender expectations at its core. Are men willing to eliminate sex? So you all are not flexible. You are constantly checking her out and discussing her body parts with your buddies, like some over-harmonal teenagers. Men have just as many preferences as women, and probably more than women. Most of us girls, just want a clean, decent, gentleman, who is not touchy feely, nor a rapist, because for us, sex and body parts, do not make a person. Women are OBSESSED with height. Be with tall guys that have slept with 500 women. But lets leave height aside… Do WOMEN like FAT guys? GTFO of here How about HAIRY guys? Uh… NO UGLY guys? Yeah right BAD SKIN? No So WT F are you talking about? EXCEPT women have boobs which they can surgically enhance and men have penis size, which women are FAR more brutal with than men are boobs, and they CANNOT surgically enhance And EXCEPT that women add height, which men DONT care about, as a deal breaker. Women on these threads make it sound like 500lb guys have NO problem dating. What TOTAL BS that is FAT women are equivalent to FAT MEN The fact that you women are equating OBESE women with SHORT men says it all! In less than 3 weeks I will be marrying the man I love, and he is well under 6 feet. Go back and read this thread, it is not EVERYONE as you falsely stated. Men reject women for small boobs, short legs, and flat butts. All these characteristics could exist in a woman of healthy body weight with a healthy body style, yet many men not all act as if morbid obesity is the ONLY reason why a man rejects a woman based on her physicality, and the go on to say they are really only rejecting the lifestyle and the character flaw that obesity is a reflection of. Now THAT is total non-sense. I have no problem with men having a physical type, and if that means a woman with short legs gets rejected, so be it. BOTH genders are entitled to their own unique set of attraction triggers. And men say that is perfectly OK. But a woman having her own attraction triggers? I guess this one really sums it up! I guess women would prefer a man 150 pounds over weight, than date a 5 foot 3 inch gymnastic stud? That is not to pass any judgment on such a choice—it is theirs alone to make. I just find it eye opening. But, if an overweight women wants to feel something that she is not dainty , then the 350 pounder is a match made in heaven! I actually understand now. I am a short guys, and I can vouch that getting a girl is MUCH harder than if I were tall granted there probably is a bit of bias involved. However, taken to the extreme, the girls in the study are preferenced to tall guys, at least very much so. This being said, changing a persons opinions to suite ones needs may be morally right but it infringes upon that persons individuality. Overall, just as guys have their preferences for thin women, so do girls have their preference for tall guys. We cannot change that. However, we can change societies reactions to such declarations of preference. As multiple commenters have said, it would be social suicide for a guy to reject a girl on the premise of being fat, however it would not be so for the opposite a girl rejecting a guys because he was short. Society needs to be as unjedgemental as it is of guys rejecting girls as it is girls rejecting guys. The actual superficiality of the decision is impossible to change, and it is thus unreasonable to try. It is the same concept when women who are smart and aggressive are labeled bitches. So I doubt most short men you know have any type of complex. Thank goodness for that!. If you always stand up for yourself than you have a Napoleon complex. Women will say just be confident and that will fix everything. Women will lie straight to your face so they will not seem shallow, since women are always accusing men of being shallow, they will simply try to cover up their own shallowness. I know many shorter men who have gotten over it, but I also know a lot of shorter men who are like switchblades. Just waiting for something to trip their trigger. I can honestly say that there is a huge difference on average between the way shorter guys act and guys who are taller. If you are shorter, you simply have to take a look in the mirror. Maybe even ask some friends you can trust, or set up some hidden cameras and watch how you act…just act normally, and then watch the video later. Or, simply do a self analysis. Do you act aggressive? Try to act tough most of the time? Do you believe that you have to act tougher to get respect? What struck me funny was how somebody above basically tried to say that if you are confident, etc.. Well, that sounds just like the women whining that if they are confident strong women, they get labeled as rude and overbearing. No…if you are rude and overbearing you get labeled as such. People know the difference between confident and cocky. They know the difference between having opinions and being opinionated. If I had seen you response earlier I would have responded sooner. And yes, short men who are assertive are labeled with the Napoleon complex. Also Rusty if you had a brain or did your research no credible psychologist would even entertain what you are saying about the so-called Napoleon complex. If this complex existed anybody can have it, short tall , fat skinny or whatever. The term was simply made up by people who do not like assertive short men. You have some twisted logic and inadvertently prove my point. Its only an issue when the short man has those exact same negative personality traits. So you just label all short men something negative based on the actions of one. Maybe you need to understand what that is. If you are an asshole who judge people based on their height you need to look in the mirror and see your own flaws, and stop judging others. How would you react if people are constantly disrespecting you on a daily basis because you are 6 feet tall? Maybe if people would stop disrespecting others than everything will be cool. Your Napoleon complex is showing. Especially with your stalking me through three replies. WOW, I got under your skin a bit and your Napoleon Complex kicked into high gear. LOL I will be nice though. First, you need to learn to read. I did not say all short men have a Napoleon complex. Many keep it just under the surface. This is similar to how Ive noticed many black guys will seem cool, but at they will go on the attack very quickly. The broader concept is the victim mentality. Deep down you feel injured. There is a tender spot there that if poked or prodded, elicits an explosive response. This is more an attempt to ward off aggression by other bigger men. Both my dad and I questioned her about it and she got defensive and said that Doug could afford to be nice but because she was a short woman, she had to establish her authority. I told her she was wrong. I told her that in actuality, he attitude could actually spark a guy into action. I told her, simply talk in a calm, firm, confident tone. And yeah, that did work for her. Some big men are also jerks. This comes from two different but equally bad places. The big man is just a bully that acts like he does because he feels his size allows him to. I had two grandfathers. Not all people have a situation like my two grandfathers experienced. Generally a quiet and calm man. Most of my uncles on that side of the family are similar…big but calm and reserved. He was the opposite of my other grandfather. He did have a Napoleon complex. He allowed his experience to make him bitter and an alcoholic. This was before my dad met my mom. And I am not just saying that because she was my grandmother. My mom was a good looking woman, her younger sister was voted sexiest in her class in a large high school in Columbus Ohio. My grandmother was the type of older woman who attracted men less than half her age when she was out by herself. She was model good looking with naturally platinum blond hair. The point here is that these very beautiful women, then and now married short men. So there are women out there that have no problem with it. Not all white women want to date black guys. Not all black women want to date white guys. I like Oriental and Latino women. Not all of them want to date white guys. I just have to deal with that, and not be a hypocrite, because I too have things I do not want. Really not interested in dating black women. Are they any different than short men? Can I just flip a switch and change what I am attracted to? I think your problem is that you need to look in the mirror and give it an honest accounting. You acted just like somebody with a Napoleon Complex. Somebody throws darts at you and you return fire with nuclear bombs. You are just like women who have a personality problem standing in their way, then make excuses and whine that they are being discriminated against just because they are a woman. There is a difference. Are their some good ones left? Maybe, but I still like the divorce odds better with a foreign woman. Women are reaping what they have sown. Now many men have had it and are simply looking someplace else. My ex-wife had a friend, and she was hot. No credible psychologist would agree with you. I would never see myself as a victim, if you read anything else I wrote on this blog I am clearly giving younger dudes advice on how to deal with the discrimination and how to deal with idiots like you with pre-conceived notions. Your inflated ego is coming out big time. You like to go off on these long stories that you try to use to justify your predjudice assumptions. Then you talk about black people in a very generalize way. Hmm I am seeing a pattern here. You also sound like the typical person trying to play psychologist but in reality you simply do not know what the hell you are talking about. The reason why I responded is because I think your logic is so humerous. You talk as if every woman or at least most women have a pre- biological code which they can not control which forces them to choose a much much taller mate. That theory is so laughable, and I bet you typed it with a straight face. Dude you have issues. Also no one wants to here your pointless and long family stories, they are irrelevant to the conversation as you trying to desperately fit pyschological theories into a real life situation. You need to stop trying to be a professor you are not smart I assure you.. I will continue to respond to you because I feel its my duty to educate you since you have an unconscious ignorance. Dr Martin Luter King said an unconscious ignorance is the most dangerous kind. I think you are a dangerous person that should never be allowed in any kind of high management or leadership position. Your own pedjudice may affect your decision making and a good employee may get fired becuase you have a predjudice. Loook in the mirror and take a long hard look at yourself. No credible psychologist would agree with you. I would never see myself as a victim, if you read anything else I wrote on this blog I am clearly giving younger dudes advice on how to deal with the discrimination and how to deal with idiots like you with pre-conceived notions. Do you know that? Not once did I say that all short men have this complex. Both of these men were able to get top shelf women. Yet you are so wrapped up in your own victimhood that you continue to attack and attack and insult. Use your own advice. Like it or not, SOME short guys feel inferior because of their lack of height and try to make up for it by being overly macho and quicker to aggression.. Everyone has their own cross to bear. Some flat chested women feel self conscious about that. Everyone has a cross to bear. Some deal with it in a good way, some deal with it in a bad way. Now, please continue to show everyone that you are indeed one who has this complex by continuing to attacks somebody and insult because they dare to have a different opinion than yours. A successful man who just happen to be short can just do like you did and say to hell with American women and date women in other countries who are not as shallow about height. That is a quick and easy fix. My point is to give short men in America advice on dealing with predjudice people like you. If you read other things I posted you would have gotten it. No one is whining dumbass about not getting a woman. Most good men regardless of height can and will eventually get a woman. Short men who are successful have no problem at all finding a good woman once they broaden their horizon and date women in other countries and cultures. Mostly fat women whine about their situation. Men short, tall or whatever simply adjust to the situation and deal with it. I want young men who just happen to be short, to know how to deal with predjudice people like you in the work place, that is my point. What I posted has true research to back it up. Napoleon complex is a myth. I am not whiniung I am simply trying to educate the ignorant like you and if some young man is reading this they will know how to recognize and how to deal with people like you, they will know how you think; they will know how to recognize people like you and the best way to react. This discussion is not about dating, it is about you. You are a good example of that. No one is arguing that either side is shallow, both men and women do basicly the same thing, which is the point I have made dumbass. It sucks you cannnot cut me off in mid sentence like you probably would do in your dailey life. You cannot simply dismissed my point because you feel someone who is short should not have an opinion. I will keep on responding until you finally get it. Your generalizing everything based on your effed upbringing. This is all coming from humans here….. Again, it always goes back to you women. You women create men like this, by ignoring them, treating them like dirt and not caring about them. Along the same lines, most women may not be into short guys because it makes them feel big and heavy. Come to think of it, I know a woman who is 5 foot 9 and has dated men shorter than I am. In that situation, both parties have to have TONS of self confidence and not really give a damn about how other people are perceiving them. Because he kinda looks short and she kinda looks like a giant. However, most of my boyfriends have been an inch or two shorter than me. Though it would help if he were a stocky fellow, in that case. The feeling of being a woman next to a man never left me for a second while with him. There is something wrong with the U. We know you guys like breasts, so to have a guy who has even easier access to looking at them ALL the time is creepy. Incidentally, it also gives us a little more height, thus creating the need for a taller guy if the premise previously mentioned holds true for most of us women. So, to the short guys out there: There are plenty of short girls. Stick within 2 inches of your height and you should be just fine. So the same difficulty can be said for a guy who is unusually tall. Your dating pool is just going to be smaller. You are the largest population in the world all nationalities combined! There are plenty of women for you to date…if you prefer Asian women. Your life revolves around an overpriced, shitty shoe brand that hurts your feet and makes you unable to walk properly, but decides decides your choice on future partner. I am sure your children will have great moral values! What happened to attraction based on looks, intelligence, and personality? Not being able to sneak a kiss without a running jump — not my idea of fun. Just really killed any sexual desire on my part, which was minimal to begin with. He was a great guy in a lot of other ways, which is why I married him, but that piece was always missing for me. As for the Napoleonic complex thing: he was very even tempered and rational until he got behind the wheel of a car — can you say road rage? I could only kiss them properly if I was standing on the first step of a staircase. I got a stiff neck from craning my head up all the time to look at them. You, my friend, are the pituitary freak around here, not me. I will say this: I once stood in an airport security line in L. He was totally hot looking, blond, off to Hawaii on a diving trip. We flirted for the duration then went our separate ways. That was the day I realized, OHH, yeah… I could totally date a guy his height. I also said I would NEVER marry a smoker… and I did. Also, if an Asian man had asked me out, or a black or Latino man for that matter, if I liked him and he was cute and I thought there was a chance we might be compatible, I totally would have gone out with him — but none ever did ask me out. I dated an obese guy for a while but there was just no chemistry there for me and I broke it off. If a tall guy and a short guy each act aggressive in exactly the same way, then only the short guy will be said to have napoleon complex. Sorry, but I fail to see how that term is any different than any other negative term used to describe a physical attribute that someone is born with. Good night, what does it matter if the guy is a little shorter? Is he a good man? Does he make you feel safe amd protected? Is he romantic and can he make you feel special? Can he make you laugh? Whatever happened to chemistry and compatibility? Best of luck…your gonna need it! Personally, I LIKE short men, so send them my way. I find them usually to be friskier, more sensual, and generally less arrogant than the tall, head-in-the-clouds dude. And based on the statitics proven here, is it really any big surprise that men develop a Napoleanic attitude? I feel more secure, confident, and relaxed. I do understand what taller women are talking about, not wanting to feel like they are dwarfing their man, but I also know what the flip side of that is. So, I say, Short People of the World — Unite! Lift yourself up to your full height proudly. That applies to our intimate lives, as well, and with whom we romance. If you care about each other, you make it work. I find that VERY SEXY. Like most of my shorter male friends, we have hordes of female friends, I suggest because we treat them as equals as opposed to submissive or dainty subjects in need of dominance. Dominance is fun in the bedroom, for sure, but quite honestly, while I like being dominant in bed, I also like a woman strong and aggressive enough to take control, too, for it expands, say, the repertriore, and decreases sexual boredom. Doing things society or peers may not deem normal requires a lot of self confidence extremely appealing in a woman! When mates are equal there is greater opportunity for connection, I posit, and lessens the power conflict sometimes inherent in male-female relationships. They seem INTO MEN while their American counterparts place such substantial restrictions on what a man is, some, not all, of which is based on self imposed height stereotypes. European women, accordingly, seem to have more male options. The more options one has the real issue for short guys like myself given the way we seem to be limited by a reasonable portion of women , the greater the pool of connections, and the less needy and more desirable one becomes. I suggest American men do the same as their female countertops, implying there are strong cultural, as opposed to biological, elements at work. The biological argument, moreover, seems to suggest that it cannot be controlled, but the ability to overcome what may be deemed innate biological dispositions is what separates us from the animals, is it not? I have had female friends state it was refreshing to get outside of the box and try something different dating a short guy because it made them more free and, accordingly, more powerful , and understand feminimity is not a concept based on weakness or daintiness, but ultimately, on a form of strength that may not be physical, but is at the very minimum emotional and intellectual. Women with this type of strength are VERY SEXY. Women that figure that out, I suggest, lead much happier and fuller lives because they are able to increase the number of human connections they have and that includes taller people as well. And to be self serving, for a moment, they have also found that it all lines up the same horizontally and they may end up with a real giant if they spend a few hours with a shorter guy let your minds wander. As someone who coaches athletics, I usually find the shorter guys better athletes in terms of balance and rythm and those attributes can lend themselves to sexual prowess. I very rarely see good tall male dancers. People whose outlooks are so limited be they tall or short are not as sexy and appealing as those who have freed themselves from conventional boundaries. My grandmother always admonishes us that you limit yourself most when you limit others. It was a sad commentary on the state of what is important for a portion of the female dating population out there, and no surprise, accordingly, women are still sold short by many men in many aspects of life. Interesting article, Evan, and some cool and honest replies. A woman who is successful is not some power hungry b…ch, but should be lauded for overcoming what are still strong albeit thankfully decreasing cultural biases. I always thought other issues like compatibility are more important. That could also be due to my job. As a midget female in the military bigger guys always want to push you around or challenge you. Not all mind you but dealing with the alpha male nonsense can be fun. Big jerks make big targets in deployed conditions… Being short has bonuses. Having dated tall or short — and divorced from a short — I still know one thing. Lucky escape for me! It is no more descriminating then the men who prefer shorter thinner women, because they feel big and strong!! They also generally want someone that they can show off. When it comes to dating, in the US, there are a lot of hang ups. Men and Women are gulity of stereotypes and submitting to cultural norms. I like wearing heels, and can be an easy 6 foot tall when I have a pair on. Mainly because I feel just as awkward about my height. Yes, I would put the security and safety above looks, but you have to get to the point where you can have that. A lot of shorter men lack self confidence, or have an over abundance. But the same goes for women. I hope Tom finds a great relationship. He sounds like a great guy, but even if you read his profile, he has similar hang ups. If we are asking everyone to be open minded to shorter men, who have a few extra pounds, and come from Korea, then we ourselves should be open to a potential match that is maybe not exactly what we are looking for. Evan you are doing great things here, keep up the good work. These are just thoughts from someone who has had it rough in the dating world. Positive physical features aside, I have been single most of my life. I value being creative and working 7 days each week though conceptually I am sincerely interested in meeting someone with whom to spend the rest of my life. She is out there. Cognitive distortions and irrational beliefs make us angry, anxious, or depressed. Please consider understanding, accepting, and forgiving others for having very specific preferences. We are always changing. He who seeks a women with X, Y, and Z today may desire one with A, B, and C tomorrow. Relax and ride the wave. Think good thoughts and think big. Well, you know what I mean. So I like to know, for real, whether you are my height, taller, shorter, whatever. When women stop caring about irrelevant characteristics like height, men will start being more truthful. So tell me how is this working out for you? You lie then get angry at the woman for not giving you a second date? I even understand the arguments. But the fact remains that I automatically respond to a taller man. You like what you like. To suggest that women who prefer shorter men are somehow more enlightened or that those who prefer taller men are somehow deficient in one way or another is ludicrous. Shortness is seen as weak and perhaps childlike, as one of the commenters above noted…. You might find similar results. Excellent nutrition plays a KEY role in height development. Contrary to popular belief, Americans are actually getting smaller over the past 35 years. Mainly due to all of the harmful chemicals and additives that have been put in our food, and all of the horrible, indulgent, bad lifestyle behaviors and choices most people are making, and have made. If you eat the right foods, this would certainly be feasible. Genes are only one half of the equation. Nutrition is the other. My mother or father never smoked, drank, did drugs, ate bad foods, etc. Their comfort comes from the portrait that they want for their life. Even if they know their tall target is severely flawed, they will take a chance and paint the picture they want to paint. Superficiality is willing to ignore the less obvious issues that an undesirable tall man may bring. This reflects their lack of confidence. They want men to be confident because they are not. Where are these guys, anyway? Must be out on a mammoth-hunt I guess. I think there is something wrong with a person who does not accept in others what they have in themselves. If you are a Black man and you think Black women are ugly you have some internal issues going on. If you are a short man and you chase tall women then something is off about you inside. He chases these Kim Kardashians and then cries into his pillow. I tell him why not date a short woman or Black woman? He says he is not attracted to them. He only likes light skinned girls and tall curvy ones and then calls them sluts when he gets rejected. I think you know I am short and dark just like you and I experience the same as you and it is hurtful to hear my own brother talk about women like that who look like me. Now I know what men are thinking when they treat me like that. I stopped having any sympathy for him and told him not to talk about dating around me. Our own mother thinks we are undesirable. She used to tell us no one will marry us, who would marry you? In fact she still says that! You will always have you! If you are not generally considered a preferred person then pursue other things that do not involve those who are most likely to reject your advances. You are worth your own pursuits and a true map of the landscape will help you direct your course in life. Evan is no dummy. That aside, I have a few comments about this specific post independent of the previous one. And yet they admitted their feelings because Evan asked and, well, we all know life is unjust. These are HONEST women, not ones in need of therapy, as suggested. Furthermore, I noticed in his profile that Tom refuses to go out with a heavier woman. Enough to actually open up his dating criteria to include fat women? At the end of the day, I believe Tom makes compelling arguments that nonetheless sadly fail to persuade the majority of women in online dating land. Maybe she should then be persuaded to loosen her criteria. But then again, the converse argument applies to Tom, where perhaps he should consider permitting heavier women who have no issue with shorter men into his dating pool, rather than spend the energy trying to fight an uphill battle against womens prevailing attitudes. Feminism empowered women to take control of their own futures and taught men that women are qualified for any position they aspire to. Humanity got over that prejudice, atavism be damned. But not this one? I wonder how many of us have preferred one thing over another, but somewhere along the way, our preference has changed. Hopefully someone who has no problem dating short men contacts Tom maybe that was the aim of the whole thing — to get Tom a lot of exposure but I doubt any rewiring of what people find attractive is going to happen by being berated for being honest. Change your expectations and behavior, right? It comes across as narcissistic in a way, that I should care what they think even though I m not interested in them. But all good men will eventually find someone. He probably already has. He was simply making a point and I doubt that you are intelligent enough to comprehend. Now I have always suggested short men broaden their horizon and look at non American women. There are some countries where height is not as much of an issue and in some countries height is not an issue at all. Just one month after saying to hell with American women and started looking else where I found the person I am with now. I am tempted to not advise anybody to even deal with an American woman after my very positive experience with different women overseas, but we should not just simply boycott American women because there are a few good ones out there who are not obsessed with height. With you being tall, you can be a complete dumbass with no job and women will still go for you. You probably pissed them off, there is a huge shortage of tall men. You probably pissed them off, there is a huge shortage of tall men. Of course these are women with not much going on for them. And your Napoleon Complex got you talking about things you know nothing about. I want for a woman that meets what I am looking for. Maybe you should engage your brain, stop acting like a runt, and go get one of those quality women from another country. What…are you too good for them? Discriminating against a Chinese woman? And they will treat you right. Use the internet, learn about their culture. Learn about the mistakes foreigners make, like showing up when invited to their home, but not bringing an appropriate gift in Korea. What I have to say to this response is. I have know a LOT of women, professional women go for tall losers. I know of this friend who is now 43 years old and admitted to me she was shallow when she was younger. Her shalllownes put her in her current predicament. She was in the airforce and a high ranking airforce sergeant, she married this tall janitor who quit his job shortly after they got married, he never worked a day during the marraige and now suing her for alimony. She knows of numerous friends who made that same mistake. I want for a woman that meets what I am looking for. I simply said you probably pissed them off because there is a shortage of tall men and there is even a demand for tall egostist like you. I suggested young men broaden their horizon to seek a mate that is up to their standard. I would never suggest boycotting American women altogether, that sounds so childish to me. You keep bring up this Napoleopn crap, give over dude, you got issues. Enough with your obsession with Napoleoon. Do some women avoid short men like the plague? So do some women avoid men who have no degree like the plague. So do some women avoid men who are older than them. So do some women avoid man of their own or another race. So do some women avoid men who are fat. So do some women avoid men who are Alphas and some avoid Betas. So do some women avoid men who are obese. I have news for you…men do the same thing. So too do some men avoid women who have children. So too do some men avoid women of their own or another race. So too do some men avoid women who are over a certain height. But I see plenty of women out there that have women who are taller than he is. Also, are you insisting on the whole package? No, just the opposite. I am not lacking for female attention. I am the one that is not happy with what I am finding in American women. There is something wrong in the culture of this country, and some other western countries. It is a lack of respect for men in general. Do a little research. Society is being bombarded with messages that men are worthless. Practically every commercial involves the man being an idiot who is saved by a woman. Women are valued for simply being women. Men are not valued for simply being men. A successful man who just happen to be short can just do like you did and say to hell with American women and date women in other countries who are not as shallow about height. That is a quick and easy fix. My point is to give short men in America advice on dealing with predjudice people like you. If you read other things I posted you would have gotten it. No one is whining dumbass about not getting a woman. Most good men regardless of height can and will eventually get a woman. Short men who are successful have no problem at all finding a good woman once they broaden their horizon and date women in other countries and cultures. Mostly fat women whine about their situation. Men short, tall or whatever simply adjust to the situation and deal with it. I want young men who just happen to be short, to know how to deal with predjudice people like you in the work place, that is my point. What I posted has true research to back it up. Napoleon complex is a myth. I am not whiniung I am simply trying to educate the ignorant like you and if some young man is reading this they will know how to recognize and deal with people like you, they will know you think; they will know how to recognize people like you and the best way to react. This discussion is not about dating, it is about you. You are a good example of that. No one is arguing that either side is shallow, both men and women do basicly the same thing, which is the point I have made dumbass. It sucks you cannnot cut me off and mid sentence like you probably would do in your dailey life. You cannot simply dismissed my point because you feel someone who is short should not have an opinion. I will keep on responding until you finally get it. In fact, I am sure of it. I must be your Napoleon Complex. If not, what is it? I mean wow, I actually posted that short men can get top shelf women…I gave two examples of short men in my life that had gotten them. If you bother to read…without letting your complex interfere, and cloud your thinking…I stated that not all short men have this problem. Kind of like not all tall me are bullies, and not all big men are gentle giants. It truly scares me that you have put yourself into a position of mentor to other short men. I can only imagine the amount of damage you are doing. Try reading a post of mine in another thread where I talk about a young sailor in my charge named Travis, who went from being a hot head to the best sailor I knew. He was very short, and I would definitely say that he had this complex. In fact that was stated by many people many times. Wait…how can I think he was the best Sailor that ever worked for me when I am prejudiced against short guys? You can have an epiphany moment where you realize that you are doing wrong and need to change. We all have our problems. We all need our epiphany moments. But to have it we have to be open minded enough to accept that moment, because it will likely be painful. It takes a strong man to accept it and take responsibility. As you will notice, the link I provided acknowledged that and stated that this complex does not cover ALL short men. Only those who have issues with being short. It is simply a description of the men who have a problem dealing with being short. Is that your inflated ego talking to you? You are proving to be the egotist I thought you were. That is the dumbest thing you said so far. Also this is coming from a man who said women are biologically pre-programed to go for taller men. Dude you are stupid beyond belief. My point is to get you to respond with as many of your lame theories as possible so young short men can spot an idiot like you more quickly. I am concerned about all the Military careers you destroyed because you have a pre-conceived notion and a hidden dislike of short men thinking they have an inferiority complex. They are simply coming to work and doing their job just like everybody else, you decide to single them out and mico-manage them while you make strange assumptions about them. That is so dangerous. CPTAlon give Rusty a break man. You just keep going and going and going and…GOD, the quarrelling is fun to read but why are you attacking the guy so much? You do ACT like you have an inferior complex of some sort. Believe it or not, you can be confident without having someone label you as a person with Napoleon Complex. If you can differentiate between aggression and assertion, confidence and cockiness… you are well on your way out of that label. We met and he was shorter than me by a few inches. Did I mention I only date tall guys? He was kind, intelligent, and amazing in bed. I totally fell in love with him AND his shortness. We have since broken up, most likely due to my insecurities and inability to communicate. I literally miss his short man walk. He never knew I liked to pretend I was a supermodel and he was a shipping magnate. Moral of the story? I have a thing for short guys now. I have no idea how to fix it. View More Comments: 1 ….